that we're reducing our deficit in a way that doesn't hamper growth, reduce the kinds of strategies that we need in order to make sure that we're creating good jobs and a strong middle class. >> strong middle class. make sure the system is fair. it's game on for this president. joining me now is political strategist angela rye. thank you both for being with us. >> thank you, reverend al. >> jarret, let me go to you first. tax fairness is a big part of what the president wants to get done. take a look at this. there are many middle class households that are actually paying a higher tax rate than households that make over a million dollars a year because they don't get most of their money from investments. will the president's policies change this problem? >> they will and they already are, to some extent. but there's more to be done there, just like the president just said. in the deal that ended the fiscal cliff, the tax rate at least for folks at the very top of the income scale, above $450,000, on capital gains and dividends, capital gains is what you get when you sell an appreciated s